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Old 08-28-2008, 06:26 AM
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Default Todays lays

RatingsBlot(Lays) is still averaging over 1 point profit/day and LayingChallenge 2-step staking is on 348 wins : 2 losers and current winning run 110....32 more needed to beat previous best.

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£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day224
510 ANDURIL try inrunning


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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
240 QUICUYO
300 RIDGEWAY SILVER
410 MAJOR MAGPIE
450 ROCKET ROB
500 SEVENTH CAVALRY


Results to date after 42 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +42.86 points...Laying to win £100...+£4286
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:23 AM
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LayingChallenge is now on 114 wins in a row for the 2-step staking...200 would be good :-) Don't get too complacent though...always the next 2 lays could be the ones to give the 3rd losing bet sequence. Nevertheless, when that next loss does come we have more than made up for the previous one and the bank will be at a new high. Anyone who has been doing them right from the start has only had 2 losers in 8 MONTHS. In those 8 months the bank has grown by 442%. If the growth so far were equalled for the next 8 months, in 8 months time the bank would be at £14700 and then again, the £500 starting bank at the end of 2 years would be £77022...assuming we could get the bets matched of course.

RatingsBlot(Lays):- is still averaging well over 1 point profit/day...that's over £100/day if laying each to win £100.

Exciting NEW RealTime Information Service:- this is not dead in the water yet...it still may happen if I can catch my mate at the right time. He's doing some work for Britains' most successful gambler who bets £millions a week on football and when that guy says jump, he jumps...but hopefully I can still persuade him to activate his site.

Football 100/1 Winners:- starts tomorrow.

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£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day227
240
540


Day226
250 NEW GUINEA 17 @ 7.6 won +16.15
335 WILLIAM BUTLER not matched
600 no bet
645 SPEEDY SENORITA 17 @ 6.0 won+16.15

First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
29.............4624...1571...2-step staking actual 2412.09
30.............4993...1633...2-step staking actual 2478.59
31.............5392...1698...2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £17
352 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 114

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2712.99
Profit : +£2212.99 : +442%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
341 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 5
341 winners @ £95 = £32395 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£5451

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
210 PAPER HAROW
340 BANJO PATTERSON
510 FREE OFFER


Yesterday
225 KARASHAR unp2/1 +.95
345 SAFARI MISCHIEF 3rd4/1 no bet
415 MUFTARRES unp4/1 no bet
425 LEE MILLER 3rd11/4 +.95
435 COSMIC SUN 2nd10/3 +.95
500 ELBISTAN unp3/1 +.95
505 KEELUNG nr
515 CAVERA 2nd9/2 no bet
700 SIMBA SUN unp9/2 no bet
715 EXPRESSO STAR 2nd6/5 +-.95
730 ANOTHER STORM won7/2 -3.85
+0.9 points


Results to date after 45 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +48.51 points...Laying to win £100...+£4851
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Todays lays

£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day227
240 HAWK EYED LADY 17 @ 7.4 won +16.15
540 UBIQUITOUS not matched


First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
29.............4624...1571...2-step staking actual 2412.09
30.............4993...1633...2-step staking actual 2478.59
31.............5392...1698...2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £17
353 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 115

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2729.14
Profit : +£2229.14 : +444%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
342 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 6
342 winners @ £95 = £32490 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£5546

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
210 PAPER HAROW 3rd15/8 +.95
340 BANJO PATTERSON unp8/1 no bet
510 FREE OFFER unp3/1 +.95
+1.9 points

Results to date after 46 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +50.41 points...Laying to win £100...+£5041
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:30 PM
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RatingsBlot(Lays):- So far this is on course to make 400 points in a year! Had one or two people saying they would love to join but wouldn't be able to do the lays because they can't monitor prices near the off. But you don't need to! Yes, the PERFECT scenario is you spend all day in front of the computer monitoring prices and laying each one immediately it starts to drift in price so you lay at the shortest price or the ones that are shortening in price you wait and lay when the price bottoms out or the race is just about to start. In the real world, nobody can do this. So lay them EARLY. I often do and I have already laid some of todays because I'm happy with the price. OK, some might shorten in price after I've laid them...but also some may drift out in price. It's a chance you take....swings and roundabouts. Yes of course we want to lay at the shortest possible price we can but in reality you have to make an assessment of what price you're happy to give sometimes and go with it. Sometimes it will work in your favour...other times not but it will all average out.

So sometimes you will lay one early and you're not around near the start of the race and it drifts out to 4/1 and beyond...so it will show in the results as a "no bet". But you will have laid it at a value price and chances are it will still get beat and you win. Occasionally you will miss laying one that's 4/1 or more when you look at it but it shortens up before the race. So what!...there are always going to be more tomorrow. OK it may get beat and you've missed a successful lay...but also you may get lucky and miss one that goes and wins the race which is more likely to happen when they shorten in price than when they drift.

I believe if you keep laying these horses when they are under 5.0 on Betfair serious money can be made. We are laying fancied horses that are mostly being overbet and starting at shorter prices than their true chances of winning.

Football 100/1 winners:- Including these for the first time today. Just the one qualifying match. Current price on Betfair is 130.0 (129/1) but there's very little liquidity. Should be more nearer the start time.

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£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day228
420
440
450


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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
150 ZED CANDY
210 TURFANI
250 TRULY DEVINE
and 8 more


Yesterday
210 PAPER HAROW 3rd15/8 +.95
340 BANJO PATTERSON unp8/1 no bet
510 FREE OFFER unp3/1 +.95
+1.9 points

Results to date after 46 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +50.41 points...Laying to win £100...+£5041

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Football 100/1 winners:-
Results backing 1 point at average 100/1 less 5% exchange commission...so 1 winner = +95 points

The bet is to BACK on the Correct Score market 3:3. Prices for this are significantly better on the exchanges than with any bookmaker. You should get a minimum of 90.0 (89/1) and sometimes as much as 120.0 maybe even 130.0 if you ask for it. Remember if you can't get on before the match starts many of these matches will have betting inrunning too...also there is more than 1 betting exchange.

Because of the very high prices, losing runs will be long. I would recommend a starting bank of at least 500 points if you are going to do all 6 leagues.

English Premiership
2008/9
Won 0
Lost 4

German Bundesliga
2008/9
Won 0
Lost 7

Italy Serie A
2008/9
Won 0
Lost 3


Portugal
2008/9
Won 0
Lost 5

1st
Maritimo - Guimaraes


Scotland Premier
2008/9
Won 0
Lost 10


Spain Primera
2008/9
Won
Lost 2

Last 2 seasons results>>>
2006/7 season combined........+312 points
2007/8 season combined........+320 points

English Premiership
2007/8
Won 1
Lost 94
+1 point

2006/7
Won 3
Lost 119
+166 points


German Bundesliga
2007/8
Won 2
Lost 85
+105 points

2006/7
Won 1
Lost 101
-6 points


Italy Serie A
2007/8
Won 2
Lost 115
+75 points

2006/7
Won 1
Lost 105
-10 points


Portugal
2007/8
Won 2
Lost 80
+110 points

2006/7
Won 1
Lost 72
+23 points


Scotland Premier
2007/8
Won 1
Lost 61
+34 points

2006/7
Won 1
Lost 62
+33 points


Spain Primera
2007/8
Won 2
Lost 133
+57 points

2006/7
Won 2
Lost 115
+75 points
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:24 AM
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It doesn't get much better than this. 100% yesterday.

LayingChallenge has moved on to 118 wins in a row for the 2-step staking...24 more to beat the previous best run.

RatingsBlot(Lays) are still running at well over 1 point profit a day...that's £285 profit yesterday if laying each for £100. It's consistently profitable and on the rare losing day because we are laying shortpriced overbet horses...so low risk...losses are minimal.

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£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day230
400
450


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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
240 MUREE QUEEN
250 RUTBA
320
340
420 JOHNNY FRIENDLY
500
720
750
820
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:31 PM
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100% again today>>>

£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day230
400 SHESHA BEAR 17 @ 5.7 won +16.15
450 LAUREL DREAM 17 @ 8.0 won +16.15


First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
29.............4624...1571...2-step staking actual 2412.09
30.............4993...1633...2-step staking actual 2478.59
31.............5392...1698...2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £17
358 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 120

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2809.89
Profit : +£2309.89 : +460%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
347 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 9
347 winners @ £95 = £32965 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£6011

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
240 MUREE QUEEN 4th4/1 no bet
250 RUTBA won9/2 no bet
320 HANDCUFF 3rd5/1 no bet
340 LEADING ARTICLE 3rd8/1 no bet
420 JOHNNY FRIENDLY unp4/1 no bet
500 BATCHWORTH BLAISE unp8/1 no bet
720 SMOKEY RYE 3rd4/1 no bet
750 PRIDE OF INDIA unp7/2 +.95
820 I AM THE BEST 2nd4/1 no bet
+0.95 point

Results to date after 49 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +53.87 points...Laying to win £100...+£5387
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:00 AM
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LayingChallenge has moved on to 120 wins in a row for the 2-step staking...22 more to beat the previous best run.

RatingsBlot(Lays) are averaging 1.1points profit per day to date.


£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:-
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Step 1 stake increasing to £18 from today
Possible lays at>>>
Day231
300 KEYS OF CYPRUS try inrunning
420
440


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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
200
230 SEA CREST
240
250
315 ART PRINCESS
405
430
500 SEVENTH CAVALRY
530
650
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:59 AM
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100% again yesterday.

LayingChallenge:- has moved on to 122 wins in a row for the 2-step staking...20 more to beat the previous best run. Well ahead of schedule to turn £500 into £25,000 in 2 years.

RatingsBlot(Lays):-100% again yesterday...even the 7 "no bet" horses were all beaten and actually all unplaced! Over 55 points up now in 50 days.

£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:-
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Step 1 stake increasing to £18 from today
Possible lays at>>>
Day231
300 KEYS OF CYPRUS 18 @ 8.0 won +17.10
420 LADY AQUITAINE nr
440 ALWAYS BEST 18 @ 8.0 won +17.10...went to 3.60 inrunning


First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
31.............5392...1698...2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835...2-step staking actual 2844.09
34.............6791...1908

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £17
360 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 122

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2844.09
Profit : +£2344.09 : +468%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
349 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 11
349 winners @ £95 = £33155 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£6201

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
200 MABAIT unp8/1 no bet
230 SEA CREST unp4/1 no bet
240 VERSAKI unp9/2 no bet
250 KELAMON unp13/2 no bet
315 ART PRINCESS unp11/2 no bet
405 BABY ROCK unp10/3 +.95
430 FLYING GREY unp9/2 no bet
500 SEVENTH CAVALRY 2nd9/4 +.95
530 CREDENTIAL nr
650 RANN NA CILLE unp9/2 no bet
+1.9 points

Results to date after 50 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +55.77 points...Laying to win £100...+£5577
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:17 AM
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100% again yesterday. Winning run now 124

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£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:-
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day235
420
510


Day234
410 JOHN CHARLES 18 @ 7.4 won +17.10
440 EASY DANCER 18 @ 8.0 won +17.10

First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
31.............5392...1698...
2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835...2-step staking actual 2844.09
34.............6791...1908

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £18
362 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 124

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2878.29
Profit : +£2378.29 : +474%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
351 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 13
351 winners @ £95 = £33345 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£6391

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
240 BRIGHT ENOUGH
420
450
520


Yesterday
200 MANDALAY KING 2nd5/2 +.95
340 NICKI BOY unp7/4 +.95
400 SQUIRTLE unp8/1 no bet
410 TRULY FRUITFUL unp13/2 no bet
430 THE BEAR unp6/1 no bet
+1.9 points

Results to date after 53 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +58.45 points...Laying to win £100...+£5845


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Football 100/1 winners:-
Results backing 1 point at average 100/1 less 5% exchange commission...so 1 winner = +95 points here>>>

The bet is to BACK on the Correct Score market 3:3. Prices for this are significantly better on the exchanges than with any bookmaker. You should get a minimum of 90.0 (89/1) and sometimes as much as 120.0 maybe even 130.0 if you ask for it. Remember if you can't get on before the match starts many of these matches will have betting inrunning too...also there is more than 1 betting exchange.

Because of the very high prices, losing runs will be long. I would recommend a starting bank of at least 500 points if you are going to do all 6 leagues.

English Premiership
13th
3 matches
20th
3 matches


German Bundesliga
13th
3 matches

Italy Serie A
14th
6 matches

Portugal

Scotland Premier
13th
1 match

Spain Primera
14th
3 matches
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:25 PM
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100% yet again.

£500 to £25,000 LayingChallenge:-
Lay only 5.0 to 8.0
Possible lays at>>>
Day236
430 SOTO 19 @ 7.2 won +18.05
520 PRINCESS FLAME 19 @ 8.0 won +18.05


First column shows bank growth at 8% a week required to turn £500 into £25,000 in 1 year which is very optimistic and would be an amazing achievement if it was done. 2nd column is 4% growth per week and would do it in 2 years which is a more realistic target and would still be an excellent return.
End of week target>>>
31.............5392...1698...2-step staking actual 2487.94
32.............5823...1765...2-step staking actual 2648.39
33.............6288...1835...2-step staking actual 2844.09
34.............6791...1908

2-step staking...recovering after a loser on the next lay...laying only 5.0 to 8.0>>>
1st stage stake now lay to win £19
365 winners : 2 losers
Strike rate : 99.4%
Longest winning run : 141 (other winning run was 97)
Current winning run : 127

Start Bank : £500
Bank now : £2931.49
Profit : +£2431.49 : +486%

Level stake laying to win the same amount on each, £100...+£95 after 5% commission...5.0 to 8.0 only>>>
354 winners : 44 losers
Strike rate : 88%
Longest winning run : 42
Current winning run : 18
354 winners @ £95 = £33630 less 44 losers @ Betfair matched price = -£26944
Profit : +£6676

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RatingsBlotSystem (Lays):-
Laying to win 1 point less 5% commission and losing lays SP+10%
Recommendation to lay only when Bookmakers' SP is under 4/1.
250 EL PORTET unp6/1 no bet
350 HAWK HOUSE 3rd15/8 +.95
500 JEMIMA'S ART unp9/1 no bet
510 MAZARIS 3rd11/8 +.95
+1.9 points

Results to date after 55 days laying only when Bookmakers' Starting Price is under 4/1 : +61.30 points...Laying to win £100...+£6130

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